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Review: G51JX-A1 Review

 Posted - 10/2/2010 2:16:42 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

PJPeter
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Hi Krischan, welcome to the forum . Remember that our 3DMark06 scores were run at 1280x1024. Does your monitor support 3DVision and 120Hz? My system doesn't - I guess I'm out of the loop on things!

The CPU Score is affected by the PhysX setting in the nVidia Control Panel - I talked a fair bit about that in the 13 pages of this thread - I don't know if your LG is using a similar setting to inflate it's numbers, but that could be a factor. Don't forget also that this is a quad core CPU - so it doesn't go quite past 3GHz on one core even with Turbo Boost (though it does have lots of other improvements as well to optimize things).

Hope that helps,
Peter

P.S. Nokuma, no I haven't had a problem yet - thanks for the heads up though, I'll be watching it carefully. I only just got my Sony Xperia X1 back yesterday after I sent it in to get its keyboard fixed (it was awful, half the keys would not work or would be registered multiple times). Thanks.

PJPeter


 Posted - 10/9/2010 10:46:23 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Since the GSOD issue isn't going away, this might be a good pointer for those that do own this machine, but it may only apply to me. I've been stressing the video card quite a bit but started to realize that whenever I get the GSOD, it's because of the HD temperature. Usually my HD temperature gets close to the 50C mark and this is where problems start kicking in. It would be odd to conclude this simply because the GSOD should be due to the graphic card itself, but can anybody really confirm this?

Finally, due to the design of the machine, it is basically impossible to beat this problem other than either applying a really good thermal paste like IC7 Diamond or for the more cheaper solution, get a glass of ice cold water and put it on palm rest side where the GPU is. I've never gotten a GSOD when playing intense games like SC2 (running close to high settings at 1080p)


 Posted - 10/10/2010 2:41:30 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hmm, I haven't pressed by system too much of late sorry, so I can't confirm. I haven't gotten a BSOD or a GSOD (Green Screen of Death?) for months now. Maybe the HD Temp rising is an indication of the circuitry reaching that temp? Usually it doesn't overheat itself, it stays pretty cool on my system, so for it to be getting that hot may indicate the hole system is getting to a tipping point.

I'd be careful with the glass of cold water - I could see that being an accident waiting to happen. I'm glad to hear it works, but how would you use the laptop keyboard and screen with that there? Do you use the laptop with externals in those cases? With the tilt I have of my laptop on the cooling pad I mentioned earlier, it would no doubt be tipped over in a few minutes. I could see putting an ice pack there though perhaps, so I guess that would have the same effect as you mention. A bottle of ice water could also work - though the feet of it will probably cause less conduction which is not what we want in this case - and the condensation could be troublesome as well.

I re-read your posts and noticed you mentioned that one MMO was giving you the BSODs, is that same issue you have here?

Good to hear from you again,

PJPeter


 Posted - 10/10/2010 3:00:21 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

jaid19
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The specific MMO doesn't cause a problem anymore ever since I changed the frame limit rate to a higher value (default is 3, max is 8). I do use an external keyboard simply to avoid having any keys give up on me while using although I hear the keyboard is pretty sturdy general. My friend is thinking of getting a G51Jx-X5 so I'm thinking of having him customize the laptop to have IC7 thermal cooling, which now leaves the BSOD but more specifically GSOD (graphic screen of death) being determined by either the relative heat of the PC (both HD and graphic) or the HD itself. The laptop distributor in my area (PC Village), the tech support usually tells me to check the heat near the side, but it's always hot, I tend to look at the wrist rest on the left side where the hard drive is, it seems to be a much better indicator. As long as that area doesn't get too warm, BSODs would never happen.

 Posted - 12/9/2010 7:17:16 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Itoro
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Hey wow... there's been quite a lot of info posted on here.. THAT'S AWESOME..pretty much all the questions I eva had have been answered just by reading the first 2/3 of the entire forum.. I mean between the first few post by Pjpeter and Talismanna... wow.. (not sure who else has posted but.. well...)

Anyway... I'll preface my question by apologising if someone has already answered this question but...


How reliable is 3dmark... ? there's quite a lot of information that's 3dmark dependent?!? .. So I thought I'd ask.

I did a quick search on this site for it and came up with NADA.. aka nothing.. so yeaaaaaaah..

Thanks all (in advance)


 Posted - 12/10/2010 7:26:00 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hello Itoro,

3DMark is pretty reliable - there have been some reports of things being altered by the big graphics card companies in order to affect the results in some tests - but I think in the end if you remember that 3DMark is a tool for comparison more than anything, then it can be quite useful for that, as well as a benchmarking/stability tests (I used to use it for this purpose specifically actually when I worked at ATi). Just keep it apples to apples (same resolution, settings, etc...) and it can help to show if theres's some issue, be it driver, hardware or otherwise.

Does that answer your question?

Have a good day - oh and btw my G51JX is still going strong - I've been using it to play Civ5 lately and it does so without a hitch

PJPeter


 Posted - 12/23/2010 2:07:03 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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Hello Peter,

I’ll ordered the Seagate Momentus XT 500 Gb hybrid drive. It’s seems to be a great performance boost for this system. For my development i am running VMware on this machine and needed more performance and quicker response. But not willing to pay the price of a real SSD drive white the GB’s.

After the Christmas days i will go install the new drive and do en full restore from my home server. Loving the Home server there’s no better backup solution.

There’s a question and I’ll hope you are familiar with it, what is the best upgrade for memory. By a forum of G51 owners there are some saying 12 GB is the maximum based on the 1333 MHz memory on the controller while others say this barrier is 16 GB.

Regards Marcel

Nice dog, my own dog is a choclade labrador


 Posted - 12/23/2010 3:51:19 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hi Marcel,

Welcome to the forum. Cool - I like Labs, thanks - she really is a nice dog now just over a year old.

That's nice with the home server - I may have to do that - I probably have 4 different copies of things backed up over 6 different external HDDs - not to mention hard media - gotta just go and clean it all up soon - maybe when I have some time off for Christmas next week .

I couldn't say for sure on the memory sorry - I'd assume it could handle 16GB - If they feel that is the barrier they are probably going based on the # of RAM slots. 12GB though - if the controller can't handle it then that makes sense.


PJPeter


 Posted - 12/24/2010 3:00:55 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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Hey Peter,

Thanks for de quick responce. Then the first step i'll take will be the 12Gb. The VMware's needed more then the 6Gb the system came with.

Link to the forum pages i mention. Like to read other stories before do the investment.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-reviews-owners-lounges/487236-asus-g51jx-owners-lounge-68.html

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-reviews-owners-lounges/487236-asus-g51jx-owners-lounge-69.html

Best Home server is the HP X495 (if you also like media), if you liked it buy it now it's still on the marked. HP will stop with this product after Christmas. http://www.homeserverland.com/ ;-)

B.T.W by youre story i have choose and bought the G51. The same story.

Have a nice christmas.


 Posted - 12/24/2010 12:24:36 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

mhthomas
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I got this for my G52Jx and love it:

2nd HDD / SSD Caddy for ASUS G51Jx, G73Jh - replace optical
http://newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_36&products_id=319

I am running 12GB Ram with no issues. Also, I noticed, sometimes CompUsa stores have the -x2 for $999 USD. The link may not have accurate store information, however:
http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=5592727&sku=A50-15617


 Posted - 12/25/2010 6:09:23 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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Thanx mhthomas

Never thought about this solution. The OS on a 120GB SSD and the VMware on the fast Momentus hybride in the caddy.

The BR/DVD player has to be an external version in this case but thats no a problem.

Have to look of the part can be orderd in Europe

Marcel


 Posted - 1/14/2011 3:35:07 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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The Seagate Momentus XT 500GB in action

First startup after a complete new fresh install on the G51.
There's no difference, but after the second en third boot programs previously started are more faster. Love it with the use of VMware.

The second SSD / HD caddy proposed by mhthomas
cannot be orderd in europe. Thats a pity.

Peter, thanks for the quick action on the email.


 Posted - 1/14/2011 3:43:53 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Glad to hear that upgrade worked for you - good to know for future. About how much faster do you think it is? In terms of seconds would be great if you know, thanks - though even just knowing that it feels a fair bit faster is good to know.

Too bad about the SSD/HD Caddy - not being able to get it shipped there. It would have been good to have that info as well and it can definitely help. If I do get a slimline BD External Burner/Player I don't think I'd be using my internal CD/DVD Burner drive much anymore anyway - so it's definitely something to think about.

Thanks,

PJPeter


 Posted - 1/14/2011 5:14:00 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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Cannot explain it better i think. This is exact what you get.
Look on Youtube, it's the test from a Seagate Momentus XT  with his opponents on a G51.

A SSD is to expencive for the GB you get, so this is the solution for this moment fot me, think it is another issue by 2012. The SSD less expencive per GB.

Url http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss98VdhSj0


 Posted - 1/16/2011 5:23:32 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hi, I am new.This is my frist thread ...lol.  
say hi to everybody.

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